Specter v. Rainbow King Lodge, Inc.
Specter v. Rainbow King Lodge, Inc.
2019 WL 11637306 (D. Alaska 2019)
December 16, 2019
Burgess, Timothy M., United States District Judge
Summary
The Court granted the Plaintiffs' Motion to Compel with respect to ESI, ordering TTC to produce installation drawings, a 30(b)(6) deposition regarding TTC's costs and profits of the STC turbine conversion and expenses to certify the aircraft, complete crash investigation files, and a privilege log for any documents withheld within seven days. The Court noted that the scope of discovery is governed by what is reasonably calculated to lead to the discovery of admissible evidence, and that the burden or expense of the proposed discovery must be weighed against its likely benefit.
Additional Decisions
JOLYN L. SPECTER, et al., Plaintiffs,
v.
RAINBOW KING LODGE, INC., an Alaska Corporation, et al., Defendants
v.
RAINBOW KING LODGE, INC., an Alaska Corporation, et al., Defendants
Case No. 3:17-cv-00194-TMB
United States District Court, D. Alaska
Signed December 16, 2019
Counsel
Alisa R. Brodkowitz, Schroeter Goldmark Bender, Rachel Min Luke, Friedman Rubin, Seattle, WA, Peter Reed Ehrhardt, Law Office of Peter Ehrhardt, Kenai, AK, for Plaintiffs.Marc Gerhard Wilhelm, Robert L. Richmond, Richmond & Quinn, Anchorage, AK, for Defendant Rainbow King Lodge, Inc.
John B. Thorsness, Clapp, Peterson, Tiemessen, Thorsness & Johnson, LLC, Anchorage, AK, for Defendant Texas Turbine Conversions, Inc.
Gary A. Zipkin, Kristin E. Crabb, Guess & Rudd P.C., Anchorage, AK, Robert James Fenn, Pro Hac Vice, Rohmer & Fenn, Richmond Hill, ON, for Defendant Recon Air Corporation.
Burgess, Timothy M., United States District Judge
ORDER ON MOTION TO COMPEL DISCOVERY FROM DEFENDANT TEXAS TURBINE CONVERSIONS, INC. (DKT. #125); and REQUEST FOR HEARING (DKT. #129)
I. INTRODUCTION
*1 This matter comes before the Court on Plaintiffs Jolyn Specter, David Wood, and Marianne Wood's Motion to Compel Discovery from Defendant Texas Turbine Conversions, Inc. (“Motion to Compel”).[1] Defendant, Texas Turbine Conversions, Inc. (“TTC”), opposes the Motion.[2] This matter was fully briefed by the Parties.[3] On November 5, 2019, TTC requested oral argument. Because oral argument would not assist the Court in resolving this motion, Defendant's request is DENIED.[4] For the following reasons, Plaintiffs' Motion to Compel is GRANTED IN PART AND DENIED IN PART.
II. BACKGROUND
This action arises out of a plane crash that occurred on September 15, 2015, shortly after takeoff from East Wind Lake, Alaska.[5] Plaintiff's decedent, James E. Specter, and Plaintiff David W. Wood, Jr. were passengers on the plane, a DeHavilland DHC-3 “Otter” aircraft (“subject aircraft”).[6] The plane was owned and operated by Defendant Rainbow King Lodge, Inc. (“Rainbow King”).[7] TTC “provided a turbine conversion kit for the subject aircraft pursuant to its Supplemental Type Certificate (“STC”)”.[8] In April 2014, Defendant Recon Air Corporation (“Recon Air”) modified the subject aircraft by installing TTC's turbine conversion kit, which converted the subject aircraft's “radial engine to a turbine engine.”[9]
Plaintiffs' Complaint alleges that “the modification of the aircraft designed and completed by” TTC and Recon Air “changed the center of gravity of the accident aircraft” and Defendants “failed to inspect, identify and warn of the change in the center of gravity.”[10] Similarly, Plaintiffs' Complaint alleges that Defendant, Stolairus Aviation's (“Stolairus”) STOL Kit “changed the center of gravity, making the center of gravity too far aft and contributing to or causing a stall and or loss of control of the aircraft.”[11] TTC agrees that it “provided the turbine conversion kit for the subject aircraft” and that the installation occurred at Recon Air's facilities.[12] Plaintiffs bring claims against TTC for negligence, strict liability, misrepresentation/breach of warranties, negligent supervision of Recon Air, wrongful death, and personal injury.[13]
*2 Plaintiffs and TTC have engaged in discovery including exchanging initial disclosures, preliminary witness lists, interrogatories, requests for production (“RFP”), and depositions.[14] Specifically, Plaintiffs have propounded at least two sets of discovery requests, which contain 22 interrogatories, and 32 RFPs.[15] On September 12 and 25, 2019, pursuant to Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 30(b)(6), Plaintiffs deposed Ron Mercer, Director of Maintenance at Recon Air,[16] and Bobby Bishop President of TTC.[17] On September 25, 2019, Plaintiffs also deposed Thomas Bishop.[18]
Plaintiffs have been unsatisfied with some of TTC's responses to their Second Set of Discovery Requests and refusal to answer questions during Bobby Bishop's deposition. In their letter dated October 4, 2019, Plaintiffs assert that the parties “have met and conferred” several times and the letter was the final attempt to obtain the documents before involving the Court.[19] Unsatisfied with TTC's response, on October 17, 2019, Plaintiffs filed the instant Motion to Compel seeking the Court's intervention to compel production of (1) TTC's installation drawings; (2) missing TTC documents bates labeled TTC101074-101125, 101293-101382, 101566; (3) a 30(b)(6) deposition regarding TTC's costs and profits of the TTC conversion; (4) identification of other DHC-3 Otter aircraft converted by TTC's STC; (5) complete crash investigation files; and (6) a privilege log for any documents withheld.[20] Plaintiffs also seek to require TTC to bear the costs associated with further depositions if necessary based on TTC's supplemental responses.[21]
*3 On October 31, 2019, TTC responded to Plaintiffs' Motion to Compel, arguing that Plaintiffs have failed to meet their burden to show the relevance of TTC's installation drawings; and that Alaska statute AS § 09.17.020 prevents Plaintiffs from obtaining discovery regarding TTC finances unless a jury finds TTC liable and identifies conduct on which to predicate punitive damages.[22] TTC also states its willingness meet some of Plaintiffs demands and states it will produce (1) a privilege log; (2) Bobby Bishop's crash investigation files; and (3) Bobby Bishop for a second telephonic 30(b)(6) deposition.[23] TTC also asserts that it has already produced all flight testing records, and the “missing documents” identified by bates labels in Plaintiffs' motion.[24]
In their Reply, Plaintiffs continue to seek the Court's intervention to compel the production of the following: (1) TTC's installation drawings; (2) a 30(b)(6) deposition regarding TTC's costs and profits of the STC turbine conversion and expenses to certify the aircraft; (3) identification of other DHC-3 Otter aircraft converted by TTC's STC; (4) complete crash investigation files; and (5) a privilege log for any documents withheld.[25] Although TTC represented that they would produce categories four and five, Plaintiffs allege that as of November 7, 2019, TTC has failed to do so.[26]
III. LEGAL STANDARD
Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 26(b)(1) defines the scope of discovery as follows:
Parties may obtain discovery regarding any nonprivileged matter that is relevant to any party's claim or defense and proportional to the needs of the case, considering the importance of the issues at stake in the action, the amount in controversy, the parties' relative access to relevant information, the parties' resources, the importance of the discovery in resolving the issues, and whether the burden or expense of the proposed discovery outweighs its likely benefit. Information within this scope of discovery need not be admissible in evidence to be discoverable.[27]
One of the requirements of Rule 26 is relevance. “Relevancy for discovery purposes is construed broadly”[30] but “ ‘[e]ven if evidence is discoverable and relevant under Rules 34, 33, and 26, the Rules contain some express constraints, boundaries both ‘ultimate and necessary,’ on discovery's otherwise sprawling reach.’ ”[31] Specifically, under Rule 26(b)(1), discovery must be “proportional to the needs of the case.”[32] “ ‘Rule 26(b) has never been a license to engage in an unwieldy, burdensome, and speculative fishing expedition.’ ”[33] Rather, “the parties and the court have a collective responsibility to consider the proportionality of all discovery and consider it in resolving discovery disputes.”[34]
*4 Generally, a requesting party may move to compel the production of documents from a party that fails to make disclosures or cooperate in discovery.[35] Under Rule 37(a)(3)(B), a party may move to compel discovery if another party fails to answer an interrogatory submitted under Rule 33 or fails to respond to a request for production under Rule 34.[36] In so moving, “[t]he party seeking to compel discovery has the burden of establishing that its requests satisfy the relevancy requirements of Rule 26(b)(1).[37] By that same token, “the party opposing discovery has the burden of showing that discovery should not be allowed, and also has the burden of clarifying, explaining and supporting its objections with competent evidence.”[38] Here, because Plaintiffs have moved to compel discovery, they bear the burden of showing the relevance of their requests, while TTC—the party resisting discovery—bears the burden of clarifying, explaining, and supporting its objections to Plaintiffs' requests.
Just as a party seeking discovery may move to compel, Rule 26(c) provides that “[t]he court may, for good cause, issue an order to protect a party or person from annoyance, embarrassment, oppression, or undue burden or expense.”[39] Similar to other discovery rules, “Rule 26(c) confers broad discretion on the trial court to decide when a protective order is appropriate and what degree of protection is required.”[40] “Under Rule 26(c), the party seeking the protective order must show good cause to preclude or limit the discovery.”[41] To establish good cause, the moving party must “point to specific facts that will support the request” and cannot rely on “conclusory or speculative statements” or a “mere showing that the discovery may involve some inconvenience or expense.”[42]
IV. ANALYSIS
The Court addresses each of the five categories of discovery Plaintiffs are seeking to compel in turn.
A. TTC's Installation Drawings
Plaintiffs seek to compel about 100 pages of installation drawings TTC created to instruct Recon Air how to install TTC's turbine conversion kit on the subject aircraft according to its Federal Aviation Administration (“FAA”) approved STC.[43] Through Bobby Bishop, TTC admitted that it submitted these drawings to the FAA to review and certify the aircraft,[44] and Recon Air admitted that TTC gave them the drawings in a binder along with the conversion kit.[45] TTC objects to the production of the drawings on relevance grounds.[46]
The Parties agree that Recon Air modified the subject aircraft and specifically installed TTC's turbine engine conversion kit converting the subject aircraft from a radial engine to a turbine engine.[47] Plaintiffs claim that this modification caused a shift in the plane's center of gravity, which contributed to or caused a stall and or loss of control of the plane. At the discovery stage, Plaintiffs' interest in a greater understanding of whether the engine conversion was properly completed is relevant to their claims. In order to evaluate this issue, Plaintiffs are entitled to examine the drawings to determine, for example, whether they are accurate. Ron Mercer testified that as an installer, Recon Air has an obligation to follow the STC installation drawings. Examining the drawings from TTC will permit Plaintiffs to assess whether they did so.[48]
*5 TTC cannot avoid cooperating in discovery simply by making a generalized objection as to relevance and citing an inapposite case.[49] In this Motion to Compel, Plaintiffs have demonstrated that the drawings are relevant and TTC failed to sufficiently support its objections. Accordingly, the Court GRANTS Plaintiffs' Motion to Compel as to the installation drawings that TTC provided to Recon Air. TTC must produce the entirety of the estimated 100 pages of installation drawings to Plaintiffs within fourteen (14) days of this Order.
B. Deposition Regarding TTC Financial Information
Plaintiffs seek a 30(b)(6) deposition regarding TTC's costs and profits of the STC turbine conversion and expenses to certify the aircraft.[50] Plaintiffs assert that this information is relevant to whether there were alternatives to the engine conversion, whether there is a defect and whether punitive damages should be assessed.[51] Both Parties discuss whether this Court must apply an Alaska Statute limiting discovery of information regarding punitive damages in AS § 09.17.020.[52]
In relevant part, AS § 09.17.020(e) states,
Unless that evidence is relevant to another issue in the case, discovery of evidence that is relevant to the amount of punitive damages to be determined under (c)(3) or (6) of this section may not be conducted until after the fact finder has determined that an award of punitive damages is allowed under (a) and (b) of this section.
“Under the Erie doctrine, federal courts sitting in diversity apply state substantive law and federal procedural law.”[53] Defendant argues that the Alaska statute is substantive rather than procedural and therefore, under the Erie doctrine, should apply to this case, preventing Plaintiffs from probing into TTC's financial information.[54] In response, Plaintiffs argue that this provision does not apply because “restrictions on when discovery may occur is on its face procedural and not substantive.”[55]
There is no federal case applying AS § 09.17.020 in a diversity action to limit the scope of discovery and the Court need not do so now. By the plain language of the statute, AS § 09.17.020(e) only limits discovery if the evidence sought is not relevant to another issue in the case. Here, TTC's costs and profits with respect to the turbine conversion STC and TTC's expenditures to certify the aircraft design as modified by the turbine conversion are relevant to Plaintiffs' various theories of negligence and strict liability. Therefore, regardless of whether AS § 09.17.020(e) is substantive or procedural, it does not prevent the discovery sought by Plaintiffs in this case. These financial topics are limited to the turbine conversion used in the subject aircraft and the certification of the subject aircraft.
Accordingly, the Court GRANTS Plaintiffs' Motion to Compel as to a 30(b)(6) deposition regarding TTC's costs and profits with respect to the turbine conversion STC and TTC's expenditures to certify the aircraft design as modified by the turbine conversion. Within fourteen (14) days of this Order, TTC must schedule a mutually agreeable date to conduct a telephonic deposition of a TTC representative who must be prepared to discuss these two topics.
C. Identification of Other DHC-3 Aircraft Converted by TTC
*6 Plaintiffs seek to compel Defendants to identify DHC-3 Otter aircraft modified with TTC's turbine conversion kit, and assert that this information is responsive to RFP 53 and Interrogatories 26 and 27. Defendants object because the NTSB investigations of other DHC-3 Otter plane crashes did not result in findings that TTC's turbine conversion “had anything to do with causing” the crashes. In this Motion to Compel, Plaintiffs' bear the burden to show that their requests are relevant, but neither Party provided the Court a copy of the language of the specific requests and the Parties characterize the information sought differently.[56] Given the available information, the Court is not convinced that Plaintiffs have met their burden to show proportional relevance considering the six factors outlined in Rule 26(b)(1).[57]
Accordingly, the Court DENIES Plaintiffs' Motion to Compel with respect to identification of other DHC-3 Otter aircraft converted by TTC's STC.
D. Complete TTC Crash Investigation Files
With respect to the TTC crash investigation files created by Bobby Bishop, there is no active dispute. TTC admitted such crash investigation files exist during the deposition of Bobby Bishop,[58] and without objection, agreed to produce such files in its Response to Plaintiffs' Motion.[59] However, Plaintiffs assert that TTC has failed to do so as of November 7, 2019. Accordingly, if TTC has not already done so by the date of this Order, the Court HEREBY ORDERS TTC to produce the investigative files Mr. Bishop described during his deposition on September 26, 2019, within seven (7) days of this Order.
E. Privilege Log
With respect to a privilege log, there is also no active dispute. On October 31, 2019, TTC represented to the Court that it was “in the process of drafting a privilege log and [was going to] produce it to Plaintiffs upon completion.”[60] However, Plaintiffs assert that TTC has failed to do so as of November 7, 2019. Accordingly, if TTC has not already done so by the date of this Order, the Court HEREBY ORDERS TTC to produce a privilege log that conforms to the requirements of Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 26(b)(5) within seven (7) days of this Order.
V. CONCLUSION
For the foregoing reasons, Plaintiffs' Motion to Compel at docket 125 is GRANTED IN PART AND DENIED IN PART. The Court GRANTS Plaintiffs' Motion with respect to TTC's installation drawings, a 30(b)(6) deposition regarding TTC's costs and profits of the STC turbine conversion and expenses to certify the aircraft, complete crash investigation files; and a privilege log for any documents withheld. The Court HEREBY ORDERS Defendant to produce information, documents, and a representative for deposition in accordance with this Order. The Court DENIES Plaintiffs' Motion with respect to compelling Defendant to identify other DHC-3 Otter aircraft converted by TTC's STC.
IT IS SO ORDERED.
Dated at Anchorage, Alaska, this 16th day of December, 2019.
Footnotes
Dkt. 125 (Motion).
Dkt. 128 (Response in Opposition).
Dkts. 125; 128; 130 (Reply).
Dkt. 129 (Request for Oral Argument).
Dkt. 1 at 2–3 (Complaint). See also Dkts. 17 at 1–2 (Answer by TTC); 25 at 2 (Answer by Rainbow King); 28 at 2 (Answer by Recon Air).
Dkt. 1 at 2–3 (Complaint).
Id. Plaintiffs also initially claimed that the plane was owned and operated by Jacob Sheely, Rodger Glaspey, Ted Sheely, and or Zachary Sheely, officials at Rainbow King, although Plaintiffs have since dismissed their claims against those defendants. See Dkt. 1 at 2–3, 5–6; Dkt. 59 (Notice of Dismissal).
Dkt. 17 at 5–6.
Dkt. 1 at 3, 6.
Dkt. 1 at 2–3 (Complaint).
Dkt. 1 at 8. (A STOL Kit refers to an airplane modification for “short takeoff and landing”). See also Dkts. 25 at 2; 28 at 2.
Dkt. 17 at 5.
Dkt. 1 at 12–20.
Dkts. 116 (Scheduling and Planning Order); 126-13, 126-14 (TTC's Responses to Plaintiff's Second Discovery Requests); 126-5 (Transcript Excerpt of Deposition of Thomas Bishop), 126-7, 126-9, 126-10, 126-15, 126-16, 126-17, 128-4 (Transcript Excerpts of Deposition of Bobby Bishop), 126-8 (Transcript Excerpt of Deposition of Robert Mercer), 128-2 (Transcript Excerpt of Deposition of John Furnia, Jr.), 128-3 (Plaintiffs' Responses to TTC's First Set of Discovery Requests).
Dkt. 126-13, 126-14 (TTC's Responses to Plaintiff's Second Discovery Requests). The Parties referenced RFP 53 which was not provided to the Court, suggesting that the Parties have not provided a complete set of all Discovery Request that have been exchanged.
See Dkts. 122-2 at 5, 122-3. (Deposition Transcripts). Recon Air identified Ron Mercer as a witness to testify regarding the following categories: (1) “any and all modifications that the subject aircraft underwent while at Recon Air Corporation;” and (2) “any and all repairs to the subject aircraft that were made in conjunction with any work performed by Recon Air Corporation.”
See Dkt. 126-12 (Plaintiffs' Notice of Deposition). Plaintiffs' identified Bobby Bishop as a witness to testify regarding the following: (1) substantiation of the TTC conversion, certification of the flight performance of the DHC-3 aircraft and actions to verify the weight and center of gravity limits after conversion; (2) flight test verification of the TTC conversion; (3) compatibility of the TTC with other common modifications; (4) Communication with users about changes in the flight characteristics of the converted aircraft; (5) Costs and profits of TTC; and (6) TTC expenses to certify the aircraft.
Dkt. 126-5.
Dkt. 126-18 (October 4, 2019 Letter from Alisa Brodkowitz to John Thorsness).
Dkt. 125. Plaintiffs assert that they are seeking responses to certain numbered RFPs and Interrogatories that have not been provided to the Court. Therefore, the Court will refer to the content of the requested information rather than identifying them by discovery request number.
Id.
Dkt. 128. The Court notes that several pages of TTC's Opposition are dedicated to asserting that Plaintiffs' Complaint “falls short of ‘notice pleading’ requirements” and that Plaintiffs' lack a factual predicate for their claims. Id. at 3-12. These arguments are non-responsive to Plaintiffs' Motion to Compel. If TTC wishes to assert arguments that Plaintiffs' Complaint is lacking, it must do so according to the appropriate procedure.
Dkt. 128 at 20–21.
Id.
Dkt. 130.
Dkt. 128 at 21; Dkt. 130 at 3.
It is important to note that the 2015 Amendment to Federal Rules of Civil Procedure 26 changed the discovery standard. Plaintiffs' assertion that “[f]or purposes of discovery, relevant information is that which is ‘reasonably calculated to lead to the discovery of admissible evidence’ ” is incorrect. Dkt. 130 at 3. The quoted phrase was stricken from the Rule in 2015. Additionally, Defendant's suggestion that relevance, for discovery purposes, is governed by Federal Rule of Evidence 401 is also incorrect. Dkt. 128 at 13. The language in Rule 26 specifically rejects the notion that the scope of discovery is governed by what is admissible in evidence.
Hallett v. Morgan, 296 F.3d 732, 751 (9th Cir. 2002) (internal quotations omitted). See also Kobold v. Good Samaritan Reg'l Med. Ctr., 832 F.3d 1024, 1047 n.16 (9th Cir. 2016).
Fed. R. Civ. P. 26(b)(2)(c)(iii).
Basargin v. State Farm Mutual Auto. Ins. Co., No. 3:16-cv-00031, 2017 WL 8677339, at *1 (D. Alaska Feb. 21, 2017) (quoting E.E.O.C. v. Wal-Mart Stores, Inc., 276 F.R.D. 637, 641 (E.D. Wash. 2011) and Oppenheimer Fund, Inc. v. Sanders, 427 U.S. 340, 352–53 (1978)).
Id. (quoting United States ex rel. Carter v. Bridgepoint Educ., Inc., 305 F.R.D. 225, 237 (S.D. Cal. 2015) and Hickman v. Taylor, 329 U.S. 495, 506 (1947)); Fed. R. Civ. P. 26, 33, 34.
Fed. R. Civ. P. 26(b)(1).
Basargin, 2017 WL 8677339, at *1 (quoting Carter, 305 F.R.D. at 237 and Murphy v. Deloitte & Touche Grp. Ins. Plan, 619 F.3d 1151, 1163 (10th Cir. 2010)); Fed. R. Civ. P. 26(b)(1).
Fed. R. Civ. P. 26, Advisory Committee Notes to 2015 Amendments, Subdivision (b)(1).
Fed. R. Civ. P. 37(a)(1).
Fed. R. Civ. P. 37(a)(3)(B)(iii), (iv).
Louisiana Pacific Corp. v. Money Market 1 Institutional Inv. Dealer, 285 F.R.D. 481, 485 (N.D. Cal. 2012) (citing Soto v. City of Concord, 162 F.R.D. 603, 610 (N.D. Cal. 1995)); Fed. R. Civ. P. 26(b)(1).
Louisiana Pacific Corp., 285 F.R.D. at 485.
Fed. R. Civ. P. 26(c).
Seattle Times Co. v. Rhinehart, 467 U.S. 20, 36 (1984); Fed. R. Civ. P. 26(c).
Basargin, 2017 WL 8677338, at *3; Fed. R. Civ. P. 26(c).
Basargin, 2017 WL 8677338, at *3 (quoting E.E.O.C v. Caesars Entm't, Inc., 237 F.R.D. 428, 432 (D. Nev. 2006) and Frideres v. Schlitz, 150 F.R.D. 153, 156 (S.D. Iowa 1993)).
See Dkts. 125 at 6–7; 126-9.
Dkt. 126-10 at 2–4.
Dkt. 128-8 at 2–3.
Dkt. 128 at 12–16.
Dkts. 1 at 6–7, ¶¶ 25–26; 17 at 85–6, ¶¶ 19–20.
Dkt. 122-3 at 1, 4.
See Noble Roman's Inc. v. Hattenhauer Distrib. Co., 314 F.R.D. 304 (S.D. Ind. 2016).
Dkt. 125 at 9, 14–16.
Id.
See Dkts. 125; 128; 130.
See Snead v. Metro. Prop. & Cas. Ins. Co., 237 F.3d 1080, 1090 (9th Cir. 2001) (quoting Gasperini v. Ctr. for Humanities, Inc., 518 U.S. 415, 427 (1996)).
Dkt. 128 at 16–18.
Dkt. 130 at 6–7 (emphasis in original).
See Dkts. 125 (Plaintiffs vaguely include this category within the generic heading “Evasive Discovery Responses to Requests for Production 4, 14, 15, 16, 28, 53 and Interrogatories 26 and 27” but fail to provide the language of these requests.); 130 at 5–6 (“Identification of Other DHC-3 Aircraft Converted with the Texas Turbines' Supplemental Type Certificate.”); and 128 at 18 (“Plaintiffs allege they are entitled to information relating to other accidents.”).
“[ (1) ] the importance of the issues at stake in the action; [ (2) ] the amount in controversy; [ (3) ] the parties' relative access to the relevant information; [ (4) ] the parties' resources; [ (5) ] the importance of the discovery in resolving the issues; and [ (6) ] whether the burden or expense of the proposed discovery outweighs its likely benefit.”
Dkt. 126-15.
Dkt. 128 at 21.
Dkt. 128 at 21.